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of the screen. we have lots more in the show. twenty-six days until we fall off the fiscal cliff. is that what democrats want us to do? pictures seem so. we go live to capitol hill in 10 minutes. while congress talked about wanting to cut excess spending, the numbers may tell a different story. i will break it down coming up next. ally bank. why they have a raise your rate cd tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in econocs, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise ur rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. gerri: where would we be without senator tom coburn? without the oklahoma taxpayer dollars? this fellow brought us this image. your member this? the shrimp on on the treadmill. does anyone have? @%e national science foundation studying the effects on disease. they decided to do this, and they spend 500,000 taxpayer dollars doing this study. if you can get scientists to waste money, the senator is back with another study. this time uncove
news continues. fiscal cliff of tax increases and sharp spending cuts is now exactly one month away. in his weekly media address today, president obama again pushed his party's tax plan. of course, utah senator orrin hatch rejected in the republican response. >> both parties say we should keep middle class taxes low. the senate's already passed a bill to keep income taxes from going up on middle class families. democrats in the house are ready to do the same thing. if we can just get a few house republicans on board, i'll sign this bill as soon as congress send it my way. >> what he proposed this week was a classic bait and switch on the american people. a tax increase double the size of what he campaigned on. billions of dollars in new stimulus spending, and an unlimited, unchecked authority tow borrow from the chinese. maybe i missed it, but i don't recall him scwg for any of that during the presidential campaign. >> jarvis: parents and school boards across the country are debating whether to offer bonuses to teachers whose student do well on standardized tests. sharyl attkisson c
the called fiscal cliff of mandatory tax increases and spending cuts is to you just 30 days away. but judging by today's talk in washington democrats and republicans are hardly any closer to finding a solution. here's anna werner. >> reporter: a week closer to the december 31st deadline, treasury secretary timothy geithner told bob schieffer any potential deal will have to include a tax hike on the upper 2% of income earners. >> there is no way to raise a meaningful amount of revenue relative to the size of our fiscal challenge by just limiting the value of deductions for the wealthiest americans. >> reporter: he said the biggest obstacle is republicans who refuse to acknowledge that fact. >> there's nothing that stands in the way of that agreement. except for the potential risk that a group of republicans decide, they hold up an agreement because they want to extend tax cuts for the wealthiest that we can't afford. >> reporter: on fox news 2 sunday speaker john boehner was not optimistic. >> i would say we're nowhere. period. we're nowhere. >> reporter: earlier this week house gop members re
cliff is a series of spending cuts and expiring tax credits set to take effect in 27 days. today the president made the case to a group of top business leaders. his plan calls for a higher tax rate on earned income exceeding $250,000 and republicans say that would be a job killer. though are pushing for raise revenue by closing tax loopholes and deductions, something that the president says would not raise enough cash. wendell is live with more on the white house. how much much revenue would the president's plan raise by raising the tax rates for high earners? >> about $1 trillion the next 10 years from the rate increase. that is just part of a package that also includes limits on deductions and tax credits and aims to pull in a total of $1.6 trillion. republicans want to keep tax rates the same b end deductions and loopholes but obama says that will not get the job done. >> it is not possible to raise the amount of revenue required for a balance the package if all you rely on is closing deductions and loopholes. let me amend that. it is possible to do theoretically but it is not
off the fiscal cliff because that takes cuts straight across the board. >> it does. it makes those cuts across the board. new mexico will actually feel enormous impact. unfortunately, new mexico depends significantly on federal dollars. we have four military bases here in new mexico. we have two national labs that are very important to our national defense, and so we could possibly lose 20,000 jobs. >> greta: health care exchanges. you're setting them up. some republican governors are not. why did you decide to set them up? >> well, we're moving in that direction but we're still negotiating with the federal government, and we're negotiating for flexibility. we're negotiating for what is best for new mexicans instead of the one size fits all that's coming from washington, dc. where can we be flexible that best serves newmexicans. we've asked many questions of the president and we're hoping for answers it's been several months that we've been asking these questions and haven't received responses, but if at the end of the day the responses are not what benefit new mexicans, we can alw
the so-called fiscal cliff. congressional republicans firing back now amid claims by president obama that some g.o.p. lawmakers are holding middle class tax cuts hostage. and senator orrin hatch accusing the president of pulling a bait and switch. listen. >> the the president said he wants a so-called balanced approach to solve this crisis, but what he proposed this week was a classic bait and switch on the american people, a tax increase double the size of what he campaigned on. billions of dollars in this stimulus spending and unlimited unchecked authority to borrow from the chinese. maybe i missed it, but i don't believe him asking for any of that during the presidential campai campaign. >> jamie: well, the developments are wii by the hour and our steve centanni is covering all of them. good to see you. >> you, too, jamie. one month until the fiscal cliff and appears to be little movement, but a lot of talk back and forth and the president used a campaign style appearance to appeal directly to the american people and pushed for immediate action to extend bush era tax cuts for ever
to go before the united states faces the fiscal cliff, the white house has rejected a proposal from house republicans to prevent tax hikes and spending cuts at the end of the year. no formal talks between the two sides are scheduled today. will go outside the nation's capital to get your voice involved. republicans -- democrats -- independents -- send us a tweet, post your comments on facebook, or send us an e-mail. we begin with some of the papers across the country today and how this latest proposal from house republicans is playing out in the papers. courtesy of "the atlantic journal-constitution" -- here is "the denver post" -- finally, here is "of the arizona republic" -- here is "the washington post" on what is inside this deal -- we want to get your take on this. what do you think? ted in new york, a democratic caller. what do you think? caller: good morning. i do not think it goes far enough. i think it was greenspan that i heard last week said in a discussion panel that a recession as a result of going over the fiscal slope would be a small price to pay to pay back all the
that fiscal cliff. our next guest certainly is not following suit. find out what cuts he's willing to make. >>> another potential cost saver could be ditching the paper dollar in favor of a dollar coin. congress is considering it. could our debt literally kill the dollar bill? we'll talk about that. >>> and later on, i'll be talking exclusively to two of the nation's top ceo on how the fiscal cliff will impact their businesses. that's later on in "the closing bell." stay with us. back in a moment. [ male announcer ] if you suffer from heartburn 2 or more days a week, why use temporary treatments when you can prevent the acid that's causing it with prevacid24hr. with one pill prevacid24hr works at the source to prevent the acid that causes frequent heartburn all day and all night. and with new prevacid24hr perks, you can earn rewards from dinner deals to music downloads for purchasing prevacid24hr. prevent acid all day and all night for 24 hours with prevacid24hr. >>> welcome back. the fight over the fiscal cliff heating up with both parties accusing the other of failing to offer substantia
. president obama's initial offer on the fiscal cliff was resoundingly rejected by republicans. it included a $1.6 trillion tax increase, double what he campaigned on. also included $400 billion in entitlement cuts eliminating the need for congressional approval to a raise the debt ceiling. the markets rebounded later in the week following the latest hopes on a fiscal cliff agreement. america's economy grew at a faster pace than initially expected in the third quarter of the year. the second reading of the gross domestic product showed it at rate of 2.7% spurred by stronger inventories and exports. the securities and exchange commission is looking for a new chairman. mary shapirp schapiro announcin she will step down after nearly four years on the job. the obama administration says it will announce a replacement in the near future. >>> starbucks has a new way to spend a lot of money. it is introducing the most expensive blend made from a rare costa rican variety named geisha. it is $7 a cup and only available in 48 stores. if you order one, drink it slowly and enjoy every sip. >>> is the fi
and entitlements at tate days from going over the fiscal cliff which is called the series of spending cuts and expiring tax breaks which would be an economic disaster. the sticking point is the call for higher taxes for families, higher taxes on amounts earned above $250,000. everyone gets the tax cut, the first $250,000 is not taxable only but that. the president says, look, i ran on this and i am going to do this. but he is signaling he could be flexible on how high they would go. ed henry is like. this has been out there for a few days. >>reporter: that right. the president had the governors in today and they underdiscover the fiscal cliff will not just impact the national economy but have a lot of impact on state and local economies, as well, and their state budgets, et cetera. the president, though, is standing firm. and jake carney saying unless the republicans give in on tax rates and raise the bush tax rates on the rich, there is no deal and the president is willing to go off the cliff. they hammered speaker boehner's proposal. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we are t
shrink. on january 1 . we go over the so-called fiscal cliff. and massive government spending cuts. >> and some people fear going off of the cliff could cost thousands of jobs and push our fragile economy back in recession. it seems like we have been down this road before. that deal according to the president and congressional republicans is far from a sure thing. the president said it was a so-called balanced approach to solve this crisis and what he proposed this week was a classic bait and switch on the american people. >> it is unacceptable for republicans to hold middle class tax hostage because they refuse to let them go up on the wealthiest americans. >> people saying that the deal he offered doesn't look like a deal. steve is live in the washington bureau. is there any movement on either side. >> not much. a few republicans who are willing to talk about higher tax rev news but not higher tax rates. the president made a direct appeal to the public. the toy factory in pin pen. he urged congress to pass a bill and extend the era tax cuts for middle class only. >> congress coul
cuts. the fiscal cliff also includes the nation's agriculture policy, which expires at the end of the year. it includes patches to medicare formulas. patches to social security formulas. so this is a huge mess of issues. we're not even talking about those issues yet. congressional negotiators and the white house aren't talking about these huge host of other issues that are on the table. the thought is if they can get past tax rates and spending cuts, then they will be able to deal with the peripheral issues. but we don't have much time. if a deal isn't reached or a framework isn't reached in the next week or, so it's going to be a big problem. >> all right, thanks for that. good to see you. > >>> nokia -- we'll tell you more when we come back in a few moments. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this he pursuit of perfecti
the negotiations on the fiscal cliff. that's two things. $500 billion tax increase, the 2001, 2003 tax cuts lapsing and sequestration of spending restraint. it is a good thing, but saving $100 billion, -- >> not a common republican point of view. a lot of defense cuts. >> the head of the conservative caucus, 60% of most conservative guys in the house, jim jordan said the only thing worst than the sequester would be not having the savings and you saw mitch mcconnell saying we aren't ending the sequester. people are drawing lines in the sand -- let's try to cut to it. >> it has to be on c-span only then would the president have to say and boehner would say your spending cuts are what? cbs and nbc hasn't done that. and he was wandering around and if you look at the savings in this budget, $800 billion for not occupying iraq. and he cuts that as part of the savings. he counts of the savings, then you can't have the situation where republicans get why don't you raise taxes all day and no focus. once the bill is written, it needs to be online so everybody can go on their computer and read it and guys in
in washington president obama is meeting with washington to discuss the fiscal cliff. the automatic government spending cuts that will kick in. republicans and the white house sent to have finally found some common ground both sides agreeing that tax revenue and reductions in entitlement spending for programs like medicare are key elements of this bill. republicans may be softening on raising taxes for the wealthy americans. the white house may be bending on accepting greater spending cuts for medicare and possibly raising the medicare retirement age 65 age from 65 to 67. >> thank you mark. we will take a quick break the time is 6:38. we are following the weather. we have quite a bit of rain coming down quite a bit in the bay area especially in the east bay. george is following a hot spot in interstate 80, a backup sonically basically from berkeley up to the cartoonist bridge. george will let us know why and what is going (male announcer): live from the bay area this is the kron 4 morning news. kron 4 news starts now. >> thanks for watching kron fours bay area news channel. here are the top st
and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. without spending cuts and entitlement reform, it will be impossible to address our countries debt crisis and get our economy going again and create jobs. right now, all eyes are on the white house. our country does not need a victory lap, it needs leadership. it is time for the president and congressional democrats to tell the american people what spending cuts they are really going to make. with that, i will take a few questions. [inaudible question] >> we have outlined very specific proposals that we passed in last year's budget and the budget before. we know what the venue is. what we do not know is what the white house is willing to do to get serious about solving our debt crisis. [inaudible question] >> i am not going to get into the details. it is very clear what kind of spending cuts need to occur. we have no idea what the white house is willing to do. [inaudible question] >> no, no, no. stop. i have to tell you, i am disappointed in where we are. i am disappointed in what has happened over the last couple weeks. with the
weeks away from the fiscal cliff and still no progress. there is a massive tax hike in spending cuts, it only intensifies on comments by harry read essentially confirming the budget talks still remain worlds apart. the dow down nearly 90 points. >> this will be a big topic in the future. college loan debt. that could be the next housing bubble. >> the federal lending making college education to any one is really only creating a pile of debt so large that since 2007 it has risen 56 percent while other forms of debt like auto debt mortgage debt that declined. u.s. student debt rose $950 billion according to the federal bank of new york. now 11 percent of those balances are at least 90-days late. that is higher than credit card late payments for the first time in history. >> if the student continue to default that is the u.s. taxpayers picking up the tabs. >> most of the student debt is in the grace period so the number is probably even higher. >> we will keep following that one. christmas air fares are expected to be up. airlines continue to gouge us. >> you will pay 8 percent more tha
with congress on spending cut and other fiscal cliff details. the first meeting will be tomorrow on the hill. >> pelley: major, president said today he thought all this could be done by christmas. why does he think so? >> reporter: because that is the big takeaway, scott, from the president's conversation on saturday with house speaker john boehner. the two agreed it was in foeryone's best interest to get a fiscal cliff deal sooner rather than later, both agreed to aim for one before christmas, but they also acknowledged, scott, it will be very difficult to achieve that. >> pelley: thank you, major. will the president's team find a receptive republican congress? nancy cordes is on capitol hill for us tonight. nancy. >> reporter: well, scott, one top republican aide actually told me today that he sees these talks as one-sided, that republicans have been making all the proposals, and speaker boehner said he's still waiting for a balanced offer from the white house. >> republicans are willing to att revenue on the table but it's time for the president and democrats to get serious about the spen
to talk about averting the tax hikes and budget cuts from the so-called fiscal cliff. the president met with small business owners yesterday to talk about the effect on their companies from taxes and other changes. and right now congress is stalled over finding a solution as democrats demand higher taxes for high wage earners while republicans want cuts to entitlement programs. >>> elsewhere on the hill, u.n. ambassador susan rice spent her day behind closed doors explaining statements she made back in september about those deadly attacks on the u.s. consulate in libya. her defense failed to convince her republican critics. nbc's tracie potts is on capitol hill with more on this. tracie, good morning to you. >> lynn, good morning. rice admitted that when she said the ambassador and three others who were killed were the result of spontaneous attacks, the information was partially wrong. as she has done before, in a statement after her meeting, she blamed it on bad intelligence information, talking points where references to al queda had been taken out according to sources and attacked ch
-called fiscal cliff. our political insider on why things are looking up for the president. >> it appears as if he is playing the hand where the cards are being revealed. it's almost like three card molly. boehner has got a problem with reference to the white house proposal. too many of his people are suddenly finding something attractive about it. >> plus, we are going to track all of the rain, wind and damage from the next big storm thaissments on eyewitness news this morning tomorrow on cbs 5. we will have a lot of crews in the field seeing what's going on and here is a look at the top stories. flood watches continue today around the bay area as another storm moves in. tonight we are expected to be hit hard by heavy rain and winds once again. it's the third and final storm of this series. the storms have been wreaking havoc on the roadways in santa cruz county. in particular several trees and wires were down in mountain towns. officials are keeping a close eye on the rising san lorenso river near bolder creek and the winter storms could be a challenge for businesses that are trying to
. >> reporter: the reality of the fiscal cliff, could you have to cut jobs? >> yes. we are worried about that. if production has to slow down and the orders stop coming in from people not spending the extra money for our products, yes. >> reporter: do you have any idea, any indication of what will -- will determine that? what percentage you could be looking at? >> at this time, no. we will just have to watch it closely, come january. you know, we are in the holiday season now, which is a very busy time for us. but after that, i we will have to watch it closely and see where we go. we don't want to lose any of our 116 employees because we value them greatly. >> coming up, how is the fiscal cliff like a horror movie? the answer, coming up next. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. d bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than a
. for the president, does he want to do this? he's going to have to cut a deal with republicans on the fiscal cliff. he has other big issues to deal with. he has several other cabinet nominees. does he want to dig in and pick a fight with someone he has personal loyalty to? what was the biggest problem, college educated women and people of color, do they want to oppose? both sides would have dicey political choices. there's a lot of talk in washington susan rice is undermined politically. it might hurt her in washington, but, wolf, you've covered world capitals. think about the world. if the president were to fight for her, again that's an if, people would say she's obviously his person, he's loyal to her. even someone like colin powell, people always wondered, am i talking to george w. bush or colin powell? will he be undermined by donald rumsfeld or dick cheney? if she wins, her stature might go up around the world. >> even if she were to be confirmed with let's say 60 votes, five republicans would jump and endorse her, the secretary of state supposed to represent everyone be a bipartisan leader
the rates and avoiding the fiscal cliff, where all tax cuts and brakes expire at the end of the year. that is an election, popular at the end of the year, certainly give president obama a lot of clout right now. you can disagree or agree with the policy. that is for you to decide. republican tom cole of oklahoma happens to disagree strongly. at the same time, he recognizes the political reality that all tax cuts will expire on january one, and no one wants to raise taxes on what would amount to 98% of all the taxpayers. >> in my view, we agree we're not going to raise taxes on people that make more than $250,000, we should just take them out of this discuss right now. continue to fight against any rate increases and continue to fight for a much bigger deal. >> congressman cole joins us, the staunchly conservative editorial page of "the wall street journal is on board now. president obama's re-election means that taxes for upper income earners are going up one way or another. the question is how republicans should handle this reality. congressman cole as you heard, a number of other c
. >> reporter: stocks rallied as corporate news overshadowed concerns about the fiscal cliff. citigroup plans to cut 11,000 jobs as the bank's new ceo looks to save money. the cuts amount to about 4% of siti's -- sity's -- citi's work group. and it includes closing some branches. u.s. companies added fewer workers in november. bartly because super storm sandy shut down many businesses. including factories and retailers. they will get a better picture of the job market friday. shares of apple fell as much as 4% after a research firm raised its outlook of sales for tablet computers, pointing to strong demand from ipad rivals, from amazon, google and samsung. >>> and nokia's stock rallied,a -- after they launched a new version of the smart phone for the chinese market. >>> and another starbucks may be opening near you. the world's biggest coffee chain plans to add 150 stores over the u.s. over the next five years bringing the total number of starbucks to 20,000 by 2014. that's your money watch. for more, head to cbsmoneywatch.com. in new york, i'm alex
with the fiscal cliff, you believe the cuts kicking in january 1 # #st, something will happen, there will be a deal. that said, where do you advise people to put your money? >> a generational opportunity with the energy or in the sense that's happening right here in the u.s.. we are going to see tremendous growth from a number of companies particularly on the exploration and production space, and specifically around a fiscal cliff creating short term opportunity with limited partnerships, or mlps, the backbone of a lot of the infrastructure that's being built around the energy in a sense that we're seeing, and we'll see it for years to come, and so a lot of opportunities with a lot of opportunities. liz: opportunity of a lifetime with where it's priced now? >> i certainly say within the u.s. it's the key opportunity, largest opportunity that we see that's not only short term, but we think it's going to last for several years. david: david, bruno, thank you very much, gentlemen. good suggestions, appreciate it. liz: thanks, guys, a water shortage on the mississippi river threat
the battle over the so-called fiscal cliff. that's the combination, of course, of spending cuts and exexpiring tax breaks set to kick in about a month from now. economists say it could cause another recession. today, the president visited a toy factory in pennsylvania to make his case for his plan. he is asking americans to pressure congress to extend tax cuts for the middle class right now. in fact, extend tax cuts for everybody for the first $250,000 of income. so the families won't have to worry about a new year's day tax hike. republic leaders say letting the tax cuts expire on income of more than $250,000 would hurt small businesses and, as they call them. job creators. let's get to ed henry who is with us from the white house tonight. president says the election proved most americans are on board with this plan. >> that's right. he, without using the word thinks he he basically has a mandate. even though the election is over, he is out campaigning for this again because he thinks there is a dead lock here in washington and he wants to break it with pressure points from the
. the president makes an offer to avoid the fiscal cliff. lso where are the cuts? we are live in washington with the details. look at that guy. a construction worker walks in a convenience store checks his number and walks out perhaps a multimillionaire. we'll tell it to you straight away. >> officer and a gentleman. you will hear from the cop who spent his hard earned cash to buy a pair of socks and shoes. he pet them on him. "fox and friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ ho, ho hompt >> indeed. rick it is not christmas time here in new york city until rick descends down one of the tallest buildings in connecticut and there he is. screen left from last year screen right. when he bumped into the building. good morning to you rick. >> some traditions like fruit cake that shouldn't happen . maybe it is one of those tradition. you do it once and this is a building here. give you a shot from the top going down. it gets a little dark there. it gives you an individual. tan ford downtown height lights and they start it off by santa going over this with elvescan on sunday night. last couple of years w
have a fiscal curve/cliff/mole hill, however you choose to describe it, that includes, of course, the bush tax cuts, but also, the bigger piece is sequestration and the payroll tax cut again. another fight the president has had before. what do you make of his focus only on the bush tax cuts and specifically the middle income earners. >> this was a theme throughout the campaign, something he came out early on and hit hard on. it underscores this larger issue about inequality in this country which is an economic problem. you can't have a sustained recovery when 98% of the population hasn't gotten a raise in the last few years or decades depending on who they are. i think people are starting to focus on that. i think this issue of taxes is crucial of that. i think if we're going to go to the other cuts that need to happen, the entitlement reform you need to have a sense from the population that the rich are doing their part, that there is a sort of social cohesion. you can look to europe and see what happens when you don't have that. >> the president spoke in his comments effectivel
to an agreement to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. it's one reason why we believe that we put revenue on the table as long as it's accompanied by serious spending cuts. >> we have done our part. we have put revenues on the table. something that we dtdn't do two yearyears ago during the debt ceiling negotiations. >> sean: we'll get into what, quote, unquote, revenue really means, and whether it includes tax hikes. as you just heard from the republican leadership they're offering up real solutions on how to avoid falling often the so-called fiscal cliff. the president however still thinks he's out there on the campaign trail, in fact using the exact same class warfare that we all grew accustomed to during the election. instead of offering up a single suggestion on how to cut spending or agree to any sort of meaningful entitlement reform, he's trying to finis frighten ye american people, that there's no other alternative other than raising taxes. watch. >> the place where we already had complete agreement right now is on middle-class taxes. as i've said before, we've got two choices. if
cliff proposals ignore persistent republican demands for deeper spending cuts than the president has already proposed. that's the point. no matter how close the country comes to plunging off the fiscal cliff, topped a visors say the president will not budge until republicans acknowledge they will keep tax rates where they are for middle income families and raise them on households earning more than $250,000 a year. >> in washington nothing's easy so there's going to be prolonged negotiations. and all of us are going to have so get out of our comfort zones to make that happen. g'm willing to do that. i'm hopeful that enough members of con willing to do that as well. we can solve these problems. but where the clock is really ticking right now is on middle- class taxes. >> reporter: but the clock isng. the cold political reality is this: mr. obama is now on record seeking twice as much in higher tax revenue than the democratically controlled senate passed earlier this year with only 51 votes. tax increases that cannot pass ase senate have no chance in the house republican conference, wh
the fiscal cliff. but without spending cuts an entitlement reforms it will be impossible to address our country's debt ace crisis and get our economy growing again and create jobs. right now all eyes are on the white house. our country doesn't need a victory lap, it needs leadership. it is time for the president, congressional democrats, to tell the american people what spending cuts they're really willing to make. with that i will take a few questions. >> speaker boehner, why would you not tell democrats what spending cuts you would like to see -- [inaudible] >> it has been very clear over the last year-and-a-half. i've talked to the president about many of them. you can look at our budget. where we outline very specific proposals that we passed in last year's budget and the budget from the year before. we know what the menu is. what we don't know is what the white house is willing to do to get serious about solving our debt crisis. >> [inaudible]. >> listen, i'm not going to get into the details but it is very clear what kind of spending cuts need to occur but we have no idea what the
. >> tonight, richard wolffe on today's nonsense from republicans and where a deal on the fiscal cliff stands. and former health insurance executive wendell potter on what obama's proposed $340 billion in medicare cuts will mean for seniors. >>> vice president joe biden stumps for the middle class at a retail store that treats its workers right. i'll talk costco and fiscal cliff with steve greenhouse of "the new york times." >>> plus hostess executives tank their company and cost the people their jobs. so why are they still demanding millions of dollars in bonuses? >>> and we'll tell you how senator john mccain fits in with congressman louie gohmert's latest conspiracy theory. >> this administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust gadhafi so al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood could take over libya. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. republicans are walking tall in public but hanging their heads behind closed doors. john boehner struck a defiant tone during a news conference today. he blamed the president and democrats for stalling negotiations on a debt deal. >> despite t
with the fiscal cliff crisis. opponents say they will not bulging. >> reporter: house republicans want big spending cuts but no tax rate increases. here is a picture of president barack obama answering questions on twitter about the fiscal cliff. he is promoting a reference to the estimated tax increase and middle income families would see if rates are not extended, the latest would extend tax cuts for everyone including americans and who the president wants to exclude. the white house says the proposal is too short on specifics. >> we can't guess what they are, they need to tell us and they look forward to the time when they are specific with the ways we have dealt with it. >> they don't like what republicans want to do to social security and more on that during my next update. reporting live, allison burns, ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> 5:14 in florida, they have released a photo of george zimmerman, showing george zimmerman with a swollen nose and blood did i face. they responded and said it adds nothing new to the case. the volunteer watch man is charged with second-degree murder an
from budget cuts for decades. and that the rhetoric around the fiscal cliff or what i like to call the fiscal bluff is really just a way to thinly shroud these drastic budget cuts that will result in 60,000 people with aids around the world dying. these are preventable deaths that we could otherwise avoid if these budget cuts don't go through. >> let's talk about those cuts because the aids, their speculation is that more than $500 million will be cut from hiv/aids programs in the first year if it goes into effect. do you see the need for entitlement reform at any measure and, if you do, what cuts would your group be okay with? >> so, here's the thing. if we could just pass a tiny tax on the speculative stock transactions, a robinhood tax, we could actually generate up to $350 billion, and i said billion dollars a year. every single year. that would be more than enough money to end the aids pandemic and to have money left over for the largest jobs program that we ever dreamed of and enough money to fight against climate change so us up here in new york won't have to face things lik
over that so-called fiscal cliff. tax hikes and spending cuts kick in if no agreement is reached between the house and republicans on how to close the budget gap. it has been more than two weeks since president obama invited the major players to the white house to discuss the situation. as of this morning, no new talks are scheduled. brianna keilar joins us. so many republicans say they are pessimistic about a deal happening in time to avert this fiscal cliff. some say it's for political reasons. what can you tell us? >> it may all be for political reasons. that's no surprise in washington. as you can seen through dealmaking not just on this but things in the past couple of years between the white house and congress, there is almost this rhythm that has evolved. both sides are pointing to the other for an impasse. republicans like senator lindeyy graham just slamming the white house and tim geithner for a plan he laid out on behalf of the administration, laying out about $1.6 trillion in new revenues coupled with only about $400 billion in medicare cuts. listen to what graham sai
with sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. >> the speaker's remarks riled the left and provoked this response from senate majority leader harry reid. >> he says that democrats have got to get serious about cuts, spending cuts. where is the disconnect, then? >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him. okay? >> with only a handful of legislative days left on the congress's calendar before the looming fiscal cliff becomes a raw reality, will the president and house gop find a way over the latest road black and back to the bargaining table? >> why did the white house decide to have this as their opening volley when they knew the response would be a negative one that they drew? >> was it hardball opening? yeah, of course it was. the question is, what's the counteroffer? >> i would imagine there has to -- tim geithner is too smart of a guy in this administration is filled with smart people. they must have a serious strategic plan. >> let's get straight into this and joining me now is senator barbara boxer, democrat from california. senator, it is great to have you with me
moving in that directn even beforehe fiscal cliff. even now because doctors e secret getting cut, public is not aware of this. i have a cardiologist iend i have dinnerith all the time. my cardiac echo are paying me $270 for it and used to pay me $580 two years ago. the guy traed tore ten years before he couldo this test. cutting people in half for doing this kind of work with all of the training that went into it doesn't make financial sense. melissa: talk aboutore things on the list. thedoctors face an ditional 2% cut in pay for medicare patients ii we go over the cliff. what is that on top of the 27? >> the 27 is sustained growth rate formula. the 2 is part of t fiscal cliff, sequestration due to the fiscal cliff. melissa: at the same te thesdoctors at end of the day end up paying higher income tax after what they're maki at work is cut. when they get home and the government comes back and takes a bigger bite. >>melissa, your viewers many already faced wi this 50,000 or abo tax that is going to occur if thi isn'solved. i want to point out physicians this is gross fire, manyy physician
shes, the so-called fiscal cliff now in the short-term but wait for spending cuts later next year. take a listen. >> it would give us more time than next year to work together on a comprehensive plan to bring down our deficits, to streamline our tax system, to do it in a balanced way. including asking the wealthiest americans to pay a little more. >>reporter: the president said he would be willing to have a framework in the short-term for spending cuts neck year but republicans likes speaker boehner are saying if you split all this up and only do the tax side and wait on the spend cuts until next year republicans are skeptical the spending cuts will ever actually materialize. this is all very critical because earlier today, erskine bowles, a budget expert who has become an influential figure, said he thinks that there is a two out of three chance that we are going to fall off the fiscal cliff it is a high probability. >>neil: gephardt think it is a possibility to kick the can down for three, six months, and let all of the cuts, delay the cuts, and delaney dressing on the rates for at le
a gop counter offer in the latest round of "fiscal cliff" negotiations. the republican proposal includes cutting $900 billion from medicare and reforming social security. it would also raise $800 billion in tax reforms. but the white house says the offer still favors cutting taxes for the wealthy. >> us this far, republican leaders have been adamant that they don't believe rates ought to go up on the top 2% of wealthiest americans. the american people overwhelmingly disagree. >> if the president and republicans can't come to a compromise, everyone's taxes will go up january 1. government spending will be slashed. >>> the dow lost 60. the nasdaq was down 8, s&p down 7. >>> the storms that blew through the bay area brought down many trees and that's meant a hard lesson for homeowners who were cleaning up today. cbs 5 consumerwatch reporter julie watts explains your insurance doesn't always cover fallen trees. julie. >> reporter: something many are likely learning following this weekend's storm. we received photos from across the bay area of downed trees on homes and cars, and they provide
that fiscal cliff... of tax hikes and spending cuts gets triggered, negotiations still appear to be at a standstill, president obama told bloomberg news, the latest plan put forth by house speaker john boehner, simply does not add up. republicans have been equally dismissive of the last proposal from the president. tax rates on the wealthy remain the key sticking point between both sides. after a white house meeting tuesday, a bi- partisan group of governors expressed hope that an agreement will be reached soon. experts forecast economic turmoil in january, if a deal is not reached. >> john boehner took a break from the negotiations to help light of the christmas tree. eagle scout, from colorado springs helped out and there is. the crowd in cheers and the u.s. air force played " a christmas tree " and other holiday classics. this is a spruce tree from call rental white river national forest. it has 10,000 lights, ornaments and will be let in each night until the day after christmas. >> we are going to take a look at the golden gate bridge. dry roadways. the bulk of the
: telling agencies to watch for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff and warped the business exectives the economy could take another hit if the republicans decide to extend the middle class tax cut to avoid the cliff for now. then come back with more leverage. to tie it to a hike in the debt ceiling. >> we are 23409 going play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they are going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, take us to brink of default again, i will not play that game. >> republicans held their own meeting with small business owners denying they're trying to punt. >> i'll be here and available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious abouting the problem. >> they noted the president has not scheduled any meetings with the g.o.p. leaders in weeks. not offered any counterproposal to boehner's plan from last week. >> a balanced approach the president has been asking for. now we need response from the white house. >> reporter: they continue to insist the impediment to the deal is boehner's tax revenue is not enough
to raise the nation's borrowing limit would have to be matched by spending cuts in the fiscal cliff deal. >> as i told the president a couple weeks ago, there's a lot of things i've wanted in my life, but almost all of them had a price tag attached to them. i continue to believe that any increase in the debt limit has to be accompanied by spending reductions that meet or exceed it. >> asking that a political price be paid in order for congress to do its job to ensure that the united states of america pays its bills and does not default for the first time in its history is deeply irresponsible. it was deeply irresponsible in the summer of 2011, and it would be deeply irresponsible if we were to see that kind of approach taken again. >> with boehner calling on the white house to lay out specific spending cuts, senate majority leader harry reid offered his own response to the house speaker. >> he says that democrats have got to get serious about cuts, spending cuts. where's the disconnect, then? >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him. okay? >> huh. don't understand his brain
if we go over the fiscal cliff and it's starved of billions of dollars in contracts or are massive job cuts unavoidable and on the horizon? then that millionaire next door, he may no longer be a millionaire, or she f we go over the fiscal cliff. our wealth editor robert frank tal lis up the casualties coming up. you're watching "closing bell" on cnbc. this is america. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day after day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. a passionate belief, and the foundation on which merrill lynch has been built. today, our financial advisors lead from a new position of strength. together with bank of america, they have access to more resources than ever before. a steadfast commitment to help you achieve your financial goals in life. that's the power of the right advisor. that's merrill lynch. >>> who doesn't want a special dividend? the hits keep coming. oracle a
cuts to medicare or medicaid. intel not reform, should it be part of the fiscal cliff talks? here is what some of you are tweeting me. if there is not entitlement reform and we are not backing away from the cliff, we are really doing the tango dane along theedge. randy degrees. you have to curb them to bring in spending. here isrobert. without it talkare a waste of time, probably a wate anyway. ask the question. 91 percent of you said yes. 9 percent said no. surprising. here are your e-mails. says this country is so divided maybe it'' time to reinssate the mason-dixon line, get everyone five years to move to whatever side they believe that. i think they're on both sides. liberals and conservatives. ronnie from florida says to my two presidents in my lifetime had bad economies going into their terms and up to the same thing at work but ties. john f. kennedy and ronald reagan. control spending and cut all taxes. it does not take an economics degree a figure that out. finally, carol from california. we want the house to protect us as much as possible. they are now or on the defense.
ceiling debate. obviously the tea party. they put in the sequester cuts, and now is the fiscal cliff. now, i think globally it i largely viewed as something that would be pretty to crony in. the comments, the monetary policy is not something that can offset it. it will probably put this into a recession. i don't think you're going to see a grand bargain, but i think you will see steps to start the have a down payment of working our way into facing. gerri: a short-term resolution, maybe. let's at least get past the deline. maybe then we move into abigger discussion of real tax reform and intel now reform. is tat something that somebody in your position with favre? >> i think tt stcturally we need to see reforms on the spending as well as the tax side i don't think you will see that of the the next four weeks, but you will start to see that and you willtart to seekavors of that. it will be a decent shot. that is the cliff. so i think you will start to see that face them, and you will start to see both sides. already you're starting to see the republican side of the house except more of a wi
the funding might get cut if we go over the fiscal cliff, doesn't that create a massive stumbling block for you guys, what you're trying to do? >> there are two areas you are raising. it will be shifting asia. china is not cutting their commitments, they are increasing their commitments and india is dramatically increasing, singapore is dramatically -- the uk is investing more. we are talking about where is the center of innovation, where will the company's -- it is not that it is not going to exist but it will shift -- liz: we will lose our leadership. >> we will lose our leadership of we don't recommit. liz: are you worried we are not turning out enough doctors and scientists in this nation? >> we are probably not turning out enough research scientists with clinical expertise and i am afraid some young people who are interested in this, do i want to take on all those risks, people struggling to keep laboratories going and maybe decide to do something else. the most important resource we have is the talent, to be able to recruit and retain that talent is the most important job i have,
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days before drastic tax hikes and spending cuts are triggered by the fiscal cliff. speechless. two parties can't seem to make any progress on entitlement reform. earlier on "starting point" senator dick duchlt rbin said this is no time to discuss cuts to medicare, medicaid and social security, but republicans say it's the only way to steer clear of the cliff. >> washington democrats have spent money without any care for the cost or the future. and refuse to do anything to protect long-term spending programs like medicare, a failure that is among the biggest single drivers of our debt. >> whatever changes we want to make should be thoughtful changes, not made in the heat of the fiscal cliff, not done in the closing days here in a lame duck session. let's lock at this thoughtfully and at the end of the day say that medicare is going to survive and be stronger. >> how can democrats and republicans find common ground? we'll ask the former republican governor of new jersey, christine todd whitman. >>> with bikini bodies strolling along south beach, no surprise that travel & leisure maga
a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. a huge package of tax hikes and spending cuts will kick in january one. they spent time blaming each other for not getting serious. in his weekly address, president obama says he is ready to make a deal but wouldn't accept continued tax cuts for the wealthiest people. >>> the senate has already passed a bill to keep income taxes from going up on middle class families. democrats in the house are ready to do the same thing. and if we can just get a few house republicans on board, i'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it my way. but, it is unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the richest americans. >> republicans say tax hikes on the wealthy mean tax hikes for small businesses, something they insist they cannot accept. here is long-time gop senator orin hatch. >> unfortunately, some on the other side of the aisle are indicating a disastrous thelma and louise idea, that will put us in jeopardy, for small business and other parts of the e
ourselves about to go off the fiscal cliff with the automatic spending cuts, in part is because back in 2011, they wanted to raise the debt ceiling and the republicans said you cannot do it unless we do spending cuts. we cannot just do deficit spending. so they agree, they cut this deal, now the democrats are going to the republicans and saying, forget that. let's just in the position to get rid of it. what on earth would make them think that republicans would agree to that? >> because the president thinks he has a mandate from the whole country. he thinks he can get anything he wants. i am sure that alan colmes loves this idea. here are the problems. the congress has the authority to authorize the debt. they also have the authority to authorize the bill that pays the debt. so now the president wants to take that away. this guy has shown a tendency to say that i don't need congress. i can pass laws with a stroke of a pen on executive orders. he doesn't need the supreme court because he declares laws unconstitutional, like doma. he says he wants an unlimited credit card, and you all will have
, protect american jobs, and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. without spending cuts and entitlement reform, it will be impossible to address our country's debt crisis and get our economy going again and to create jobs. right now all eyes are on the white house. the country does not need a victory lap. it needs leadership. it is time for the president and congressional democrats to tell the american people what spending cuts they're willing to make. with that, i will take a few questions. [indiscernible] >> it has been very clear over the last year and a half. i have talked to the president about many of them. you can look at our budgets where we outlined specific proposals that we passed last year and the year before. we know what the menu is. we do not know what the white house is willing to do to get serious about solving our debt crisis. [indiscernible] >> i am not going to get into details, but it is very clear what kind of spending cuts need to occur, but we have no idea what the white house is willing to do. >> most public statements have been optimistic. we ar
's somewhat abstract. >> how do republicans change that message, because we're in the middle of fiscal cliff negotiations, and all you hear are about preserving tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. that just feeds into this lack of connecting to the middle class that's been a problem. >> here's your answer and it's difficult and nuanced. traditionally republicans economic message that resonated with the middle class is our taxes will be lower on you. democrats have co-opted on that. they promise taxes on the middle class but do it simultaneously with giving high spending that. cannot last forever so republicans have to make people realize that is a utopia that doesn't exist. you can't have low taxes and high spending that democrats are currently promising. >> we've had $520 billion spent on jobless benefits over the past five years, and i bet they are probably pretty evenly divided between republicans and democrats and the big message on government spending has been distorted because we've had a crazy recession. i want to bring in anna because the president built that winning location of a
bank. your money needs an ally. >>> fiscal cliff, the thing we are trying to avoid, had $1.2 trillion in cuts but half are to defense. this has $1.2 trillion in cuts but they're just saying make the whole thing cuts to entitlements in domestic spending and not cut defense at all? trying to entice the democrats saying, i don't want you to fall off this cliff so why don't you voluntarily jump off this steeper cliff but don't worry, your fall will be cushioned by lava. >> that is jon stewart's take on the gop's fiscal cliff offer. he's right. we are better off stumbling down the slope like drunken fools than the republican offer out there. here to explain that and why a huge part of the talks making major changes to medicare may be totally unnecessary is jonathan cohn and joins us now. jon, i think that's a good place to start is this. itç seems like all of the discussions about medicare, in relation to the fiscal cliff or in general seems to have an ajumpgs a assumption it's a big program and in dire need for cutting and reform but there's a basic myth at work there of the efficiency
day closer today to automatic tax hikes and spending cuts, the so-called "fiscal cliff". the president took to the road, while republicans warned there's a deadlock in efforts to reach a deficit deal. >> now, of course, santa delivers everywhere. i've been keeping my own naughty and nice lists for washington. >> warner: the president chose a seasonal setting, a toy factory in hatfield, pennsylvania, and holiday imagery to press again for extending tax cuts for the middle class. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1. i mean, i... i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. >> no. >> that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> warner: in washington, republicans portrayed the road trip as so much humbug, at a time, they said, when negotiations are going nowhere. >> there's a stalemate. let's not kid ourselves. >> warner: house speaker john boehner said republicans remain willing to raise revenues, but not by raising tax rates. and he charged the white house isn't
.b.r." >> susie: the fiscal cliff talks are going nowhere. that's the word from john boehner today. the house speaker characterized the negotiations to avoid huge tax increases and spending cuts at a stalemate. the race to solve the fiscal cliff triggered another round of dramatic sound bites from republicans and president obama. darren gersh has the latest. >> reporter: the president is still pushing to wrap up a deal on the fiscal cliff before christmas and just in case anyone missed that point, he visited a toy factory to urge congress to avoid raising taxes on the middle class. >> that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. a typical middle-class family of four would see their income taxes go up by about $2,200. >> reporter: t psidents oposg to raise taxesy $1.6 trillion, while cutting spending by $400 billion. on top of that, mr. obama asked for $50 billion more for infrastructure spending and $140 billion to extend unemployment insurance benefits and the payroll tax cut. republicans literally laughed it off. >> they want... they want to have t
and jan schakowsky and the latest on the fiscal cliff. >>> the meet iing with the president looks good for progressives. we'll get the scoop from james hoffa. >>> plus breaking news. republicans running the benghazi witch hunt remain disturbed and troubles. >> i'm more disturbed and significantly troubled. >> i'm more troubled. >> joan walsh on today's big meeting with susan rice. >>> and yesterday ricks rolled fox news. >> i think that the emphasis on benghazi has been extremely political because fox was operating as a wing of the republican party. >> today fox news strikes back. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. the white house is keeping republicans in a box. president obama is hitting the road to push the extension of tax cuts for income, for folks under $250,000 a year. the president will kick off his tour in southeastern pennsylvania on friday. today he met with small business owners at the white house and tomorrow he plans to meet with a group of middle-class families. republicans will be countering with their own events. house majority whip is ho
cuts. irvin predicts, president obama will need to take the republicans over the fiscal cliff before they will compromise. the twitter user whatrugonnado, they hope president obama fights for medicaid as hard as they fight for susan rice. keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter using the #edshow. >>> an apology, but doesn't refute his claim that the network is a wing of the republican party. stay with us. >>> thomas ricks tells the truth and fox news doesn't like it a bit. yesterday ricks called fox news out for its politicization of benghazi. >> i think benghazi was hyped by this network especially. >> when you have four people dead including the ambassador, how do you call that hype? >> how many security contractors died in iraq, do you know? >> i don't. >> nobody does because nobody cared. i think that the emphasis on benghazi has been extremely political because fox was politicizing as a wing of the republican party. >> that interview was cut short and following his appearance, ricks tells politico he saw some surprise faces in the hallway over at fox after
are digging in their heels when it comes to tax cuts and fiscal cliff. but if no compromise is reached and if the u.s. does over that fiscal cliff what it will mean for the average american taxpayer. senator orrin hatch says disaster. >> if we don't act by the end of year, 28 million more families will be forced to pay the minimum tax. 24 million will be hit with tax and average middle-class family would see their taxes go up by $2,000. >> heather: dominic is financial advisor and joins us. so you say this fiscal cliff, its fiscal nuclear bomb. what are some of the elements that concern you most? >> let's starts with this was something created by congress and signed into law by president obama. so this is not a tsunami that just came by accident, mother nature. this was created by our elected public officials. should it go off, it will be nothing short of a nuclear weapon, a fiscal nuclear weapon. we have not only the increasing of capital gains taxes and marginal tax rates but 26-28 million americans are going to be subject to the alternative minimum tax. that is potentially $3700 add
, and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. without spending cuts and entitlement reform, it will be impossible to address our country's debt crisis and get our economy going again and to create jobs. right now all eyes are on the white house. the country does not need a victory lap. it needs leadership. it is time for the president, congressional democrats to tell the american people what spending cuts they're willing to make. with that, i will take a few questions. [indiscernbile] it has been very clear over the last year and a half. i have talked to the president about many of them. you can look at our budgets where we outlined specific proposals that we passed last year and the year before. we know what the menu is. we do not know what the white house is willing to do to get serious about solving our debt crisis. [indiscernbile] i am not going to get into details, but it is very clear what kind of spending cuts need to occur, but we have no idea what the white house is willing to do. >> most public statements have been optimistic. we are sensing a different tone in th
. >> things that will have to be cut through this whole fiscal cliff thing i want to make sure that, support for small businesses --. melissa: no, you don't want your thing to get cut. th is the problem here. nobody wants their special interest to get cut. i'm sure you mentioned that. i don't think i understand your business. back to the roots is an urban mushroom farm growing gourmet mushrooms and mushroom kits. what is a mushroom kit? >> a mushroom kit, when the boxes i have right here. small little brown box. we use recycled coffee grounds from local cafes in the bay area. collect all the coffee ground waste being thrown away bring it back to the urban farm turn it into the soil for these kits. get a box like this, open it up and 10 days get first crop of gourmet mushrooms right out of the box. inspiring people to grow their own food and realizing you don't need a green tmb or big backyard. that anyone can grow their own food. take a waste stream growing own food. melissa: i'm sitting here in shock. you use coffee grounds to grow mushrooms. >> yeah. melissa: are you profitable? do you mak
and the president are no closer to a deal to avoid masigs, tax increases in spending cuts that so called fiscal cliff. the senate top rbi republican says the president is back on the trail instead of sitting down with lawmakers to negotiate a settlement. the president met with small business owners to built support for the aproich. tomorrow, meeting with middle class families. the president wants higher taxes for the wealthy. and un ambassador susan rice went to capitol hill to meet with republican senators. she's high on the list to secretary of state. she's been under fire from senate republicans over the attac killed four americans, including u.s. ambassador chris stevens. today's meeting did not go well. >> we're doubled by many of the answers that we got. i'm more disturbed now than before. >> the republican senators stopped short of saying they'd block the nomination. they say they need more information and have more questions about the incident in benghazi. >> we're coming up on december to 1. that is the day mayans said the world would end. one scientist has been answering countless let
middle-class tax cuts and avoid the fiscal cliff. taxes will go up an average of $2200 and both parties say they are open to compromise. taxes concern small business owners who met with the president yesterday. one of them runs an organic mushroom company. he told us that higher taxes will kill his business. >> we are most passionate about, a business like ours, if people are going to be taxed a couple more thousand dollars, that will affect us, as well. >> he admits his small business has benefited from programs he and friend started it three years and now they have 31 employees. >>> for the first time since the election, president obama will meet privately with the man he beat in the race for president, mitt romney. they will talk tomorrow about ideas reviving the economy. president obama said that he would reach out to mitt romney and hold that private meeting after the election. today the president met with yahoo ceo marissa myer. she is trying to avoid the fiscal cliff. and she told a reporter, quote the baby has been way easier than everybody made it out to be. 37-year-old added s
. speaker, roughly what size spending cuts do you think it would take to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff, and do you think that at least the promise of spending cuts has to be included in this level deal at this time? >> i don't think there's -- i don't think it's productive for either side to lay out hard lines in terms of what the size of the spending cuts ought to be. there's clearly -- there are a lot of options on how you could get there. but the second part of your question was? >> my question is, do you think the promise of spending cuts has to be included in the deal that averts the fiscal cliff? >> there's a framework that we presented to the white house two weeks ago. the framework is -- has been agreed to in terms of really a down payment on the end of this year. now, that would include spending cuts and it would include revenue. setting up a process for entitlement reform for next year and tax reform for next year. but -- but -- but this is way out of balance. and not a recognition on the part of the white house about the serious spending problem that we have. >> faced with t
increases and spending cuts that people here in washington call the fiscal cliff. most house members are going home today with only 27 days to make a deal. two house leaders who are not going home are with me in the situation room. they're working very hard to avoid the fiscal cliff. thanks so much for coming in. for so long, republicans wanted to extend the bush tax cuts forever, now for 98% of the american people, the democrats are saying, we're ready. we've given up, we'll let you have those bush tax cuts for as long as possible. let's just resolve that, we'll move on to some of the tougher issues later. let's make sure that 98% of the american families have these lower tax rates into next year. why not give that? >> the debate over those top two pshsz, is really a strong man debate. what we need is tax reform in america. we need a simpler less complicated tax code. >> i agree with you. we need a tax reform. why not resolve this one issue, make sure taxes don't increase for 98% of the americans, 100% of americans for their first $250,000 a year. let them have that, and then move o
for simultaneous tax hikes and spending cuts in the united states known as the fiscal cliff. the analysts expect the eurozone will contract again in 2013 and they say the region's gross domestic product will shrink by 1/10th of a percent and predicted positive growth of 0.9% in the previous report six months ago. they lowered the growth expectation for the united states economy from 2.6% to 2%. they pointed to a sluggish recovery. the document warns the fiscal cliff would not only deal a heavy blow to the u.s. but might drag the global economy into recession. as for japan, the oect downgraded the outlook from 1.5% to 0.7%. they cited weak domestic demand. analysts urged the nation to compile detailed reliable plans for fiscal reform. u.s. consumer sentiment hit the highest level in more than four and a half years. researchers at analytics form the conference board say the consumer confidence index rose for a third straight month. the numbers rose to 73.7 in november, up from 73.1 in october. that's against a base value of 100 set in 1985. they say that the christmas shopping season started smoot
-called fiscal cliff. they will discuss now to avert tax increases and spending cuts due to begin in january. >>> little progress in talks between the white house and house speaker boehner. >>> if you the past few days wishing you had -- california may be getting into the big game power ball played in 42 other states. lottery officials meet today expected to adopt regulations to join power ball on the heels of the staggering jackpot of 579 million dollars two winning tickets were drawn, sold in arizona and missouri. california retailers could begin selling the $2 tickets next year would it bring in 90 to 120 middles to help supplement education spending in -- million dollars to help supplement education in -- spending. >>> let's see if we are winners the weather race today. i think we are if you count raindrops. >>> we are still looking at two bigger storms headed our way, light showers this morning, live doppler showing most activity in the north bay up through cloverdale, ukiah, a few showers offshore also napa and snow may. if you are headed out highway 101 and 121 on the wet side, be car
of the cut the democrats are willing to offer in the fiscal cliff negotiations. he said, "we need to get credit for cuts previously made." this is today. the cut previously made. i'm scratching my head to figure out what cuts the democrats made prior that they want credit for. if they did make credit cuts why did we run up four more years in a row? start fresh right now. talk about cuts and then talk about how are we going to raise revenues. >> eric: what would -- >> dana: what would harry reid mean by that? get credit on cuts they made. on what? >> bob: that is a $60,000 question. i'm not sure what he is talking about. but i know there will be cuts if entitlement program. readjust in the the entitlement program. there will be a tax increase on the wealthier americans of some size. i cannot believe that obama is going to travel around the country to make us think about this. if he doesn't think he will get them to go along with some marginal increase rates. >> dana: good point. let's get your take on that. president off campaign trail and major victory in the 2012 election. now he will g
any sense to me because while that sounds like logic, there's that other side of the fiscal cliff, all those horrible cuts that could plunge us into a depression and all the rest that no democrats want either. so are you serious, you really -- are you really saying what i think you're saying, that is that it might be a strategy that the president really wants? wants us all to go over the cliff? and then just blame you? >> yeah. that i think that's to his political advantage to do that, because then he gets to blame us, set up the 2014 elections by us being the bad guys. but look at this. a lot of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle like the $600 billion hit to the defense department and they'll absorb the 2% of cuts to the other programs out there, and remember, none of the cuts that are in the sequestration have to do with the big three on the entitlement programs. most of us would love to see an erskine-bowles type of solution put on the table here. >> so what if there were -- >> the simpson-bowles, sorry. >> simpson-bowles, i understood what you mean. there is an erskine bo
and congressional leaders met to talk about how to avoid the fiscal cliff. the automatic spending cuts and tack increases that begin to kick in if there's no agreement by january 1st. 16 days to get here. >> i think we're far apart still, but i think we're moving closer together. >> i would say we're nowhere, period. we're nowhere. >> reporter: thursday treasury secretary timothy geithner proposed president obama's plan which included $1.6 trillion in tax revenue coming largely from an expiration of bush era tax cuts for families who make more than $250,000 a year. geithner says that's a must. >> there's not going to be an agreement without rates going up. >> reporter: the administration's plan also included $50 billion in new stimulus spending. boehner says the entire proposal represented three weeks of wasted time. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. >> reporter: the house speaker says republicans have put increased revenues, including efforts to close tax loopholes and reform the tax code, on the table instead of raising tax rates for anyone. >> the fa
'm pretty worried we could go off the fiscal cliff because both sides decide to push brinksmanship beyond the brink. >> susie: honeywell has a lot of defense contracts, and if you go over the fiscal cliff, one of the first areas that will be cut drastically is defense. how are you preparing for that possibility? >> we've been planning for a couple of years about defense reductions, because we thought that is one the things that is going to have to happen. just being on the simpson bowle commission, getting a sense of how bad things are. there is an impact that is occurring across the company, and i think across other companies, about this uncertainty, can i guy still governor. i really stopped external hiring about june. i was only hire back 100 or 200 a month, so we steadily worked our census down. that helps contribute to a roubled economy. >> susie: you don't feel the way that warren buffett does, who was saying that the fiscal cliff has nothing to do with his investment decisions. you're feeling much of of more of an impact on your day-to-day business? >> i'm looking more am i going
cliff. the across-the-board spending cuts and sharp tax increases that hit in just 29 days. let's get straight to our senior congressional correspondent dana bash. she's watching what's going on. dana, the tax rates, first of all, let's get to a major sticking point right now. there's been a counterproposal from house republicans to the white house. you have details. >> reporter: that's right. let's start exactly where you just began on those tax rates because that has become the big divide between the two sides. the answer is the house republicans are not budging. they still want to continue the bush era tax rates at all income levels. let's get specific. first of all, the counterproposal, they say they would get about $800 billion in savings from what they call tax reform, from deductions and closing loopholes, things like that. but the bush era tax rates, all of them would remain, even for the wealthiest. to show you the difference, compared to the white house offer that they got last week, $1.6 trillion in savings when it comes to tax revenue. but much of that came from raising ta
. although he hasn't outlined what he thinks should be cut. if they can't avoid the fiscal cliff, it means on january 1st, every american will pay more income tax, between 2,000 to $2,200 for the average family. $500 billion in automatic spending cuts will go into effect. half of that at the pentagon. the other half coming in transportation, food safety and research. economists feel if washington can't strike a deal, the economy will fall back into recession and the unemployment rate will shoot up, rob and paula. >> tahman, the clock is ticking in all of this. where do the talks go from here this week? >> well, the white house said president obama presented his plan last week and the gop leaders shot it down. now, the ball is in the hands of the republicans. right now, it's all about the math. republicans may have to cave on taxes but president obama may have to accept deeper spending cuts. only 18 days left. >> the messy art of compromise. tahman bradley live in washington. >>> and rivers are rising across northern california this morning after three powerful storms blow through in less t
this done more than me. >> for the first time, plan for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff warning business executives, the economy could take another hit if republicans decide to extend just to middle class tax cuts to avoid the cliff for now and come back next year with more leverage to tie spending cuts and medicare reform to another hike in the nation's debt ceiling. >> we're not going to play that game next year. if congress, in any way suggests they tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the brink of default again as part of a budget negotiioion, i will not play that game. >> republicans held their meeting with small business owners and denied they are trying to punt until next year. >> i'll be here. i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving the problem. >> they noted the president has not scheduled any meetings with g.o.p. leaders in weeks and not offered a counterproposal to boehner's plan from last week. >> frankly, it was the balanced approach the president's been asking for. we need a respons
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of a deal now and that will keep us from going over the fiscal cliff. then let the tax cuts expire for the wealthy january 1st. it happens. then you can do some kind of negotiation. and that keeps us from going over the fiscal cliff. it's going to happen anyway, right? >> this is the very kind of shell game they run in washington. if you'll just give me my tax increases today, i surely will give you your spending restraint tomorrow. >> but you have no leverage in the debate. >> we never see these spending reductions materialize. that's the problem. we're borrowing roughly 40 cents on the dollar, much of it from the chinese, sending the bill to our children and grandchildren. that's unwise and unsustainable. frankly, i think it's immoral. and what you're saying is that republicans ought to agree, and somehow vote for a big proposed tax increase in hopes that in decade decades to come that this president will do something about spending. >> no, i didn't say that. what i said was why not -- why don't republicans and democrats vote for a tax -- to keep the taxes lower for middle class
the so-called fiscal cliff. that steep across the board spending cut and tax increase scheduled to hit in just 33 days. in a scathing assessment today, the speaker of the house john boehner says there's been no substantive progress on a deal. need to realize there can be no deal without tax rates going up for top earners. let's go live to our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin. she's got more on the latest developments. tough talk from both sides, jessica. >> reporter: tough talk and some bright lines, wolf. on the same day that treasury secretary tim geithner went to capitol hill to meet with both democrats and republicans to talk about these negotiations, there is tense body language and tough words on both sides of pennsylvania avenue. they're starting to sound dug-in on capitol hill. >> all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. >> reporter: at the white house. >> this is available not just here but to everyone in the world who has an internet connection. and i know things are done the old fashioned way sometimes on cap
pelosi was talking about wasn't exactly the tax cuts now, fiscal cliff later. both sides have said this has to be a two-step process, there has to be some kind of commitment in downpayment on taxes and entitlement cuts and sets up a framework for broader and comprehensive tax and entitlement reform next year because it is such a big, huge change to how we tax and how we would provide medicare and medicaid and social security, you can't do it all in four books. this new idea that republicans get more leverage if they give the president taxes now and hold out on, and hold the line on the debt ceiling like they did last summer successfully is something that is new and i think a different kind of two-part plan that republicans are starting to consider as maybe a backup plan that gives them the ability to say we lost the 2% tax hikes now, but we're going to fight later on the debt ceiling. >> let me bring in congressman james lang foford, fifth rankin republican in the house, congratulations, good morning. >> thank you, good morning. >> let me ask you about the possibility of some sort
goes over the fiscal cliff, it could cut spending over $200 billion. in other words if we come to a consensus financial plan and agree, it could be a $200 billion stimulus to our economy. having a plan in place would also give certainty to businesses and our markets, adding an additional stimulus. failing to take action could slow the growth of our real g.d.p. by 1.4 percentage points in to 13 and allowing the middle class tax cuts to expire would increase federal taxes on a typical middle class family of four by $2,200 in one year. it would throw the country back in recession and cause the jobless rate to go up. congress would be stuffing a big piece of coal into the stockings of americans by not coming together and getting a consensus plan. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the jeament yields back the balance of her time. the chair lays before the house a communication. the clerk: the honorable the speaker, house of representatives, sir, the purpose of this letter is to accept a position on the agricultural committee and tender my resignation from the natural resources c
the so-called "fiscal cliff." a series of tax hikes and spending cuts due to kick in at the end of the year. >> seems like our friends on the other side are having some difficulty turning off the campaign. >> reporter: the white house says the campaign gives the president support from the american people. >> the election was conclusive in terms of which path a majority of americans want to take. >> reporter: president obama will try to build support when he meets with middle class americans here in washington today. he will ask them how the "fiscal cliff" could impact their lives. on tuesday, he invited small business owners into the oval as of to offer their ideas. >> they had one message for the president at the oval office, they need certainty. please get this deal done as soon as possible. >> reporter: but spend anytime on capitol hill and it's easy to see a deal isn't forthcoming soon. >> there's been little progress with the republicans, which is a disappointment to me. >> their hard left doesn't want to change anything ever. they think any dollars spent or any commitment
in the "fiscal cliff" discussion unemployment a new congressional budget office report showing americans have collected more than half a trillion dollars in federal jobless benefits in the last five years. >>> a battle over an oyster farm has ended. the u.s. interior secretary ken salazar is not renewing drake's bay's oyster company's lease which expires at the end of the month. he visited the farm along point reyes national seashore last week saying it should be returned to the wilderness for future generations to enjoy. company supporters including senator dianne feinstein argue to save the farm because it's a key part of the rural economy in that area. >>> still ahead, bankrupt but still able to give out bonuses? the latest controversy haunting hostess. >> with the biggest payout in powerball history about to take place allowing it be before californians can cash in too? >> a cold war plot that's hard to believe. did the u.s. really want to blow up the moon? we'll find out. ,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,, now the multi- million dollr >>> now for tonight's winning powerball number and north over half a b
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